or for family members to come to the u.s. through lawful means without waiting a decade or two decades. >> jessica, on that point, your organization is very dedicated to staunching that flow of illegal migration at the border. but one thing pple argue about, getting tougher border security, a longer, larger fence, one thing that happens, a lot of the cross border traffic ends of moving to coyotes and other ways of getting around. which are more dangerous. and the other is, there are folks who come here illegally, but also stay because they can't get back and forth to their families along with the flow of jobs. do you worry about it? >> well, no, what i worry about are the americans who are displaced by the illegal immigrants, and the criminal activity that goes on in the southwest border region. i mean, that is what we should be most concerned about. we have a pathway to citizenship and it happens by people being sponsored by a relative or by an employer. that is the legal system that we've set up. and the numbers are limited